Mark Cuban’s Wikipedia Trouble

Mark Cuban, who is the richest blogger that I know of, and also one of the most prolific, shares a story about the Wikipedia entry about himself.

To all you Wikipedia fundamentalists: I do not hate you, or Wikipedia. (If I hated it, I probably wouldn’t have called Wikipedia “generally fun, sometimes useful, often entertaining” in my last post on the subject.) Nor am I scared that Wikipedia will put me out of a job. I am just cautious about some of its content for the very sort of reasons that Cuban describes.


kkwan

I have read that about that saga on his blog. Generally it is a childish tit-for-tat affair in the large playground that is the web. With generally unfettered access to "Web 2.0" sites anyone with time an agenda can use it for subversive means. The web tends to self correct occasionaly but it can also tend to spiral out of control, especially for those who are famous or controversial. Memes are easy to propogate through the web and often exploited (such as viral advertising).

The web has it's uses but in some way's it's still in the Wild West stages. There aren't particular norms people general adhere to and it is often seen as an outlet for deviance made easier through anonymity. I too often think of web communities, collaborations, and social-engineering sites as a meeting place of the "unwashed masses" (such as frequent occurances of 'trolls' and 'flame wars'), it is hardly ever a meeting place of ideas and discussion that was once the foundation of the web, which connected scientific communities.

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tim in tampa

What's interesting is that I've been following a trend through Wikipedia over on my blog (click my name if you want to read it all) that has pretty much been caused by the Wikipedia community's attempts to maintain some level of quality.

Put briefly, quality control is leading to an article about YouTube phenomenon Lonelygirl15 being constantly deleted by Wikipedia admins who claim she is not "noteworthy" (despite being called a "worldwide phenomenon" by the Times of London and a "new art form" by New York Magazine. Wikipedia is being pulled in both directions and while I have been a Wikipedia zealot for a while, my frustration with the new guidelines for article creation is turning me awfully sour on a project of which I've long been a proponent.

funkyj

One of the commenters on Cuban's blog says "hire a firm to police your wikipedia entry".

I agree this is a good idea. One of the Bechtel PR folks monitors the wikipedia Bechtel page and does an excellent job of giving a thoughful balanced version of the Bechtel side of the story.

Generally these character assasination edit wars mostly happen to folks who can afford to hire an "internet butler" to take care of cleaning up the trash.

Of course you could always do what many others do and ignore wikipedia's biography entries.

hank

We've become such a nonsensical culture, now haven't we?

Grant

Interesting thought on hiring an internet butler, funkyj.

I also thought this would be a good method to help the rich and famous with the paparazzi. Why doesn't Jennifer Aniston just hire one of her best friends to follow her around all day and take pictures of her everywhere she goes? Then, just publish the pictures on the internet for FREE!

The problem with the internet and the idea of a personal internet watch dog is that the internet propagates at such a quick pace.

Today there is the Mark Cuban blog. Tomorrow there will be the ILoveMarkCuban blog. Two days from now there will be the IHateMarkCuban Blog...

How do you police them all?

In a way, Mark Cuban has brought this on himself by adapting the internet as an everyday scratchpad for his thoughts. How can you not expect the trend to propagate to a point where he gets upset with the third-party content?

-Grant
TheCornerOfficeBlog.com

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mary vall

I stand by Mark Cuban... After getting to know him, his personality, and views..He is stood by 100%..He is coming out of his shell and opinions are great!

kkwan

I have read that about that saga on his blog. Generally it is a childish tit-for-tat affair in the large playground that is the web. With generally unfettered access to "Web 2.0" sites anyone with time an agenda can use it for subversive means. The web tends to self correct occasionaly but it can also tend to spiral out of control, especially for those who are famous or controversial. Memes are easy to propogate through the web and often exploited (such as viral advertising).

The web has it's uses but in some way's it's still in the Wild West stages. There aren't particular norms people general adhere to and it is often seen as an outlet for deviance made easier through anonymity. I too often think of web communities, collaborations, and social-engineering sites as a meeting place of the "unwashed masses" (such as frequent occurances of 'trolls' and 'flame wars'), it is hardly ever a meeting place of ideas and discussion that was once the foundation of the web, which connected scientific communities.

Read more...

tim in tampa

What's interesting is that I've been following a trend through Wikipedia over on my blog (click my name if you want to read it all) that has pretty much been caused by the Wikipedia community's attempts to maintain some level of quality.

Put briefly, quality control is leading to an article about YouTube phenomenon Lonelygirl15 being constantly deleted by Wikipedia admins who claim she is not "noteworthy" (despite being called a "worldwide phenomenon" by the Times of London and a "new art form" by New York Magazine. Wikipedia is being pulled in both directions and while I have been a Wikipedia zealot for a while, my frustration with the new guidelines for article creation is turning me awfully sour on a project of which I've long been a proponent.

funkyj

One of the commenters on Cuban's blog says "hire a firm to police your wikipedia entry".

I agree this is a good idea. One of the Bechtel PR folks monitors the wikipedia Bechtel page and does an excellent job of giving a thoughful balanced version of the Bechtel side of the story.

Generally these character assasination edit wars mostly happen to folks who can afford to hire an "internet butler" to take care of cleaning up the trash.

Of course you could always do what many others do and ignore wikipedia's biography entries.

hank

We've become such a nonsensical culture, now haven't we?

Grant

Interesting thought on hiring an internet butler, funkyj.

I also thought this would be a good method to help the rich and famous with the paparazzi. Why doesn't Jennifer Aniston just hire one of her best friends to follow her around all day and take pictures of her everywhere she goes? Then, just publish the pictures on the internet for FREE!

The problem with the internet and the idea of a personal internet watch dog is that the internet propagates at such a quick pace.

Today there is the Mark Cuban blog. Tomorrow there will be the ILoveMarkCuban blog. Two days from now there will be the IHateMarkCuban Blog...

How do you police them all?

In a way, Mark Cuban has brought this on himself by adapting the internet as an everyday scratchpad for his thoughts. How can you not expect the trend to propagate to a point where he gets upset with the third-party content?

-Grant
TheCornerOfficeBlog.com

Read more...

mary vall

I stand by Mark Cuban... After getting to know him, his personality, and views..He is stood by 100%..He is coming out of his shell and opinions are great!