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The Daily Beast reports on an interesting phenomenon: sperm donors who donate for free. One couple, stymied by the $2,000-and-up cost of acquiring sperm the usual way (sperm bank), started exploring alternative options online:

A few clicks later, the couple slid into an online underground, a mishmash of personal ads, open forums, and members-only websites for women seeking sperm—and men giving it away. Most donors pledge to verify their health and relinquish parental rights, much like regular sperm-bank donors. But unlike their mainstream counterparts, these men don’t get paid. They’re also willing to reveal their identities and allow any future offspring to contact them. Many of the men say they do it out of altruism, but some also talk unabashedly of kinky sex and spreading their gene pool.

In addition to the cost angle, some women like the option of having their children know their fathers, which many sperm banks don’t allow for. The free sperm route, however, has its drawbacks — a lack of donor testing, potential custody issues, and concerns over the legality of the practice.

In the absence of monetary compensation, many of the donors express a desire to “spawn as many children as possible,” a motivation that baffles researchers:

Rene Almeling, a sociologist at Yale University and the author of a new study of the fertility market, Sex Cells, says that among the 20 sperm-bank donors she interviewed, the most common motives were money, spreading “amazing genes,” as one guy put it, and helping women conceive. University of Nevada, Las Vegas, anthropologist Peter Gray, coauthor of Fatherhood, about the evolution of paternal behavior, says this drive to propagate reminds him of the ancient khan men of Mongolia—and of Moulay Ismail, the 17th-century emperor of Morocco—men who fathered as many as a thousand children, parenting none of them. “I’ll have to think about this a bit,” he says.

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  1. Mike MacDonald says:

    Evolutionary Biology meets Behavioral Psychology – I love it. The closest any science can come to providing a “meaning of life” is the propagation of one’s DNA. Only an academic could be puzzled by someone’s desire to do that consciously. As professor Tina Turner said, “What’s love got to do about evolution?”

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  2. Emma says:

    I was the creator of the first members only sperm donation connections site- FSDW (Free Sperm Donations Worldwide) – and there are almost 4000 men willing to donate for free as AI only (no sex) known sperm donors. We do not facilitate ‘shipping’ either (now there’s a disaster waiting to happen)

    I originally created it as I am child behaviour advisor and family coach by professional and couldnt imagine using sperm without knowing the man behind it? I also thought the prices the clinics charge were ridiculous. FSDW has over 2300 known success stories since its own conception in 2003.
    I find it amusing that this hasnt been talked about really other than scandalous ‘sex pest’ type stories- and of course the health authorities concern over STDs and HIV. In reality you can buy STD and HIV tests that show the antibody within 14 days- and in the UK FSDW donors get regularly tested for free at NHS GU clinics. FSDW donors get themnselves tested far more rigorously than most married couples- and reduce the risks by not having sex. Most only donate to between 1 and 4 women/ couples.

    Our oldest children are now around 8 and the beginning of a different way of parenting.
    What makes FSDW so different? I have always spoken out for children and encouraged all to ensure that children know of their biological origins even if not being raised by him. Most are actually in touch with their ‘Donor Dad’ and see him even though the parents raising the child have full parental (and financial) responsiblity. He still matters though- he is biologically linked to the child for life- even if he is not taking on a ‘traditional’ father role. And having him in the life of the child also means more relaties- cousins, uncles…
    And we know that children want this information and most want to actually meet him- before they become an adult! Many of my single members actually found donors to co-parent with – but for the most part the donor is always the ‘donor dad’ and those raising the child the ‘real parents’. This happens with straight and lesbian couples. And since 2003 there has been no legal issues which is pretty amazing really. However I think that is because so much thought goes into the choosing of one another, and their arrangement is decided before conception.

    FSDW has always been the only site in the word to ONLY allow for AI (no sex) and for no payments and for the donor to be known. Somne sites encourage this but in practice if you allow for NI men looking for free sex will register hoping for this.
    As a result of our approach FSDW tends to get the genuine men- although of course some NI donors sill try to apply- and thats why we have the behaviour code. We encourage people to actas supportive community and share info about anyonein breach of the behaviour code. Anyone even suggesting NI is removed. I canot knowingly put my members or donors at more risk than is necessary. And there are numerous STDs that can be transmitted through NI and not AI. Statistically its also likely that NI donors are having more unrptoected sex- again increases the likelyhood of passing on genital herpes or chlamydia etc.

    So if not wanting money, sex or anonimity then why? This is the question that should be asked- but journalists ignore it- and many outside of this cant comprehend it.

    This article demonstrates that- Quote – “But unlike their mainstream counterparts, these men don’t get paid. They’re also willing to reveal their identities and allow any future offspring to contact them. Many of the men say they do it out of altruism, but some also talk unabashedly of kinky sex and spreading their gene pool.”

    People think they either do it altruisitically, or for sex or because they egotistically want to know their genes are continuing (without the responsiblity) There is so much more to it though- and especially with FSDW.
    Believe it or not people are realising what children want and need. FSDW donors care. They want to choose to to donate to because they care who is going to be raising their biological child! The want to choose a women or couple with the same type of values – or religion etc. They want to know of the child – what sex- how they are etc. They care. They choose the recipient wisely even though they know they are not going to be playing that traditional ‘Dad’ role. And most want the child to contact him and get to know him when/ if ready.
    FSDW members looking for a donor are looking for not just a sperm producer but someone they can be proud to talk about to the child. We have ‘Donor Dad questionnires etc- based on what DC children have told me they want to know. They want to know about him as a person- favourite subject at school, pet hates, proudest moment etc. FSDW aims to build families and look to the bigger picture- and honour the biological parents as well as the social ones. The parents raising the child are the ones who matter most -to most kids- as they are the ones meeting the emotional as well as physical needs etc. But their heritage also matters. You cant get this at a sperm bank. Most FSDW donors wouldnt donate to clinics because they understand how important it is to have a connection with the child.

    I created Sperm Donors Worldwide (now FSDW) based on what I would want for my child should I choose to conceive with a donor. I wouldnt want to tell my child I chose ‘donor 79356′ because he had a high IQ and blue eyes. Id want to talk about his kindness, his sense of humour- and tht he was as interested in how I was going to raise them. Id want to know that if my child asked anthing I could get the nswers. And if they wanted to meet him they could- and would be happy knowing him. Imagine what it mutbe like for a child tofinaly track down the bio dad at 18 to find out he is a dead beat with no interest in them- he just needed a quick buck so donated to a sperm bank 18 years prior.

    There are thousands of dc children- now adults- talking about how they feel about not knowing their biological origins or having the chance to contact their biological father. Through FSDW no-one has to go through that.

    Yes, Im sure there will be someone who goes against the agreement and that there will be legal cases in the future- bu the laws do have to keep up with modern parenting. Families are now so different. But utlimately whatever happens we have to look more to the affect our choices have on children.

    A sperm donor is not a father- a father is soneone who ‘does’ Any fertile male can create a baby. But it is the person who becomes a good father-andhe doesnt have to be the biological one. Ideally however children should know both. And that is what FSDW is all about.

    There is so much more to this thanis being discussed. But at least ths is a start!
    Emma
    (The Child Listener- A Voice for Kids)

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    • Mike Hunter says:

      “FSDW has always been the only site in the word to ONLY allow for AI (no sex) and for no payments and for the donor to be known. Somne sites encourage this but in practice if you allow for NI men looking for free sex will register hoping for this. …Anyone even suggesting NI is removed.”

      Why is “free sex” such a bad thing, but; ‘free sperm’ a good thing? By suggesting that women should not have “free sex” you’re implying that all women should strive to be prostitutes! Sex in exchange for goods or services is the very definition of prostitution.

      “I canot knowingly put my members or donors at more risk than is necessary.”

      Isn’t that a choice for consenting adults to make for themselves?

      ” And there are numerous STDs that can be transmitted through NI and not AI. Statistically its also likely that NI donors are having more unrptoected sex- again increases the likelyhood of passing on genital herpes or chlamydia etc.”

      Please post the study that has the “statistics” which you are referring to. Or did you just make that all up?

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      • Emma says:

        Mike- I pressume you are an NI donor?

        For statistics go to your local health departmet and ask them. Ask how many of the population in your country they estimate (lower than actual numbers) have STDs that can be transmitted though unprotected sex and that carry few symptoms so either party often dont know they have it. Then ask if they would advise any woman – and man- to have NI or AI for child producing purposes, with a non partner.

        Of course free sex isnt a bad thing- if consentual – but men (and women) can get that anywhere- and preferably with a condom.

        I dont knowingly facilitate it on FSDW because the focus is on the child that is brought into the world as a result and on doing this as safely as posible for all concerned. Im not the moral police- outside of my own ste you can do whatever you like. As long as not hurting anyone (including the child) I dont care. But this site was set up to bring children into the world knowing of the biological father (even if hes not raising them) and on trying my utmost to bring people togethe who are like minded and child focused. When you put sex it in it confuses things as well as increasing the risks. Of course if they want that – unrptocted sex- they have lots of sites to choose from- where NI is permissable. And if the woman wants it then go for it.

        But I have to offer something in keeping with my own philosophy- of putting children (and families) first. And as much as a man may argue that not having sex doesnt have anything to do with it, I have found the opposite be true. The great thing about creating your own site is that you get to set the rules. If people dont want to abide by them they just dont join.

        I will always only do what I think can bring about the safest, kindest and child focused options through FSDW. And in almost 9 years there hve been no health issues or legal issues. Id like to keep it that way. As many will know a woman on a ‘free site’ last year had HIV and was having NI with numerous men (who were in turn doing the same) until she found out she had it. She didnt think to test herself- and men didnt ask her to? Based on simple statistics this kind of thing will continue- chlamydia, genital herpes etc are rife- more have them than not- and yet they are only passed on through sex. Also the enormous risks when sites allow for fresh sperm to be shipped??!! I wont even go into that… ludicrous.

        There have also been legal cases in other sites (not many yet) where there was no such an emphasis on a pre-agreed arrangement, and the arrangement was changed by one of the parties. Court is the the only way to resolve it. Any family lawyer will tell you AI and a known donor agreement shows clear intent- and the contract much more likely to be upheld. Again- if unsure- ask a family lawyer in your local area. I dont know where you live. There is also a free legalities page on the FSDW site as well as a box to ask for legal advice from professionals for around $11.

        So regardless of whether it is an adults choice to take these risks I cant knowingly facilitate it. Why set up your own site to be different and not take a stance you believe in? I will continue to welcome AI only known donors – who are in my opinion AMAZING. I would rather focus on quality than quantity – and focus on the families we are building. I support FSDW donors 100%.

        If there is a motivation to have free sex or payment Ido not believe I can as easily weed out the men who I would want as the bio father or my child, if I was looking for such a man. We want fantastic men, and in my opinion are doing a great job at that. As a recent member told me (I post many of these on our facebook page)
        “Hi I found the site was great, the clear and simple rules made me feel comfortable that everyone was informed from the outset what the boundaries were. We found someone suitable donor…..”

        Its about choices. And I wanted a place where women can know that the boundaries include not even suggesting NI. Believe it or not there are a huge numberof men who dont want NI even if offered- for example if married. I aim to offer just one small place in the world where everyone is clear about what is expected. Im focused on them. What people do elswhere- if not hurting anone (including the resulting child) I dont really care about. The problem is, there is an awful lot of that around – ie of making choices that ultimately hurt children enotionally. Hopefully through FSDW we can continue to at least try to prevent that. You can read more about my thoughts about that on the Children Deserve to Know Where They Come From Campaign site. Sites like that, worshops, support etc are funded through member subscriptions. Its what keeps us going. I spend at least 6 hours a day responding to questions, supporting my members and sending them information and advice eg through the facebook page. So people can join knowing that thei $20 a month is actually going back into promoting child focused practices, and supporting them even after conception.

        Mike- if you donate- can your children contact you, out of interest? What are your arrangements for what happens when the child is born? How many have you donate to- or plan to donate to? DO you keep track of where they are to check they dont meet later in life and inadvertantly have sex? The issues are huge…so I keep plugging with the support of hte FSDW community ..trying to reduce the risks, tackle those issues and educate ourseles about what DC children tell us about their experiences.

        Emma
        The Child Listener- A Voice for Kids

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      • Mike Hunter says:

        Wow I don’t have the time or motivation to respond to all of that. Of course I don’t have a site that keeps the money rolling in do I Emma? So I’ll just hit the important points.

        “Mike- I presume you are an NI donor?”

        Don’t make this about me. But since brought up the safety aspect I’ll touch on it. I’m a combination NI/AI donor. Meaning that I have sexual intercourse with a potential mom using a condom without spermicidal lube, then she inseminates herself using the contents of the condom. I get tested for STI’s twice a year, and will get tested before an insemination if the couple would like. I require the same from her. I’ve never had an issue, because; I don’t have unprotected sex.

        “For statistics go to your local health departmet and ask them.”

        I’m asking you. You said that NI donors are more statistically likely to have unprotected sex then the rest of the population. Show me these so called statistics you have or admit that you made them up.

        “STDs that can be transmitted though unprotected sex and that carry few symptoms so either party often dont know they have it.”

        There’s this thing called STD testing. Maybe you’ve heard of it.

        “Im not the moral police.”

        You’re trying to be. So far you’ve suggested that women shouldn’t give away “free sex”, whatever that means. Are do you actually believe that women should prostitute themselves instead? How is that more moral? You’ve also suggested that NI donors aren’t as sincere. Another ridiculous statement. You do realize that NI is how humanity has been reproducing for thousands of years.

        “as much as a man may argue that not having sex doesnt have anything to do with it…”

        Your sexism is showing. Men and women both agree that sex isn’t a negative factor when choosing NI. The last time I checked two men can’t make a baby alone.

        “a woman on a ‘free site’ last year had HIV and was having NI with numerous men (who were in turn doing the same) until she found out she had it. ”

        Again STI testing is widely available, extremely accurate, and in many places free. It’s everyone’s responsibility to evaluate the possible risks and make informed reproductive decisions. My body, my choice, my responsibility.

        “Any family lawyer will tell you AI and a known donor agreement shows clear intent- and the contract much more likely to be upheld.”

        Any contract to absolve the biological father from parental responsibility isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. You’d know that if you did even 5 minutes of research. The best way to protect yourself is though anonymity.

        “If there is a motivation to have free sex or payment Ido not believe I can as easily weed out the men who I would want as the bio father or my child.”

        There’s your obsession with “free sex” again. Why do you have such a preoccupation with prostitution? Surely that can’t be healthy for your children.

        “The problem is, there is an awful lot of that around – ie of making choices that ultimately hurt children enotionally.”

        I won’t argue with that. NI conception isn’t one of them though. It’s how humanity has been reproducing for thousands of years.

        “Its about choices.”

        Exactly. Choices that you try your best to limit.

        “Believe it or not there are a huge numberof men who dont want NI even if offered.”

        Obviously. So whats your point?

        “Sites like that, worshops, support etc are funded through member subscriptions. ”

        Anything to keep the money rolling in right? Apparently it’s ok to pay for sperm, as long as they only pay you. Just for the record unlike you, I’ve never taken a cent from any of the wonderful couples that I have helped. I’m not in it for the money.

        I’m an NI donor because I legitimately believe that by bringing joy and fulfillment into peoples’ lives I can help make the world a better place. I choose the NI route because AI represents everything I hate about a sperm bank. It’s cold, calculating, and devoid of human connection. Compassion and caring is what creating a new life is all about.

        “If you donate- can your children contact you, out of interest? What are your arrangements for what happens when the child is born? How many have you donate to- or plan to donate to? DO you keep track of where they are to check they dont meet later in life and inadvertantly have sex?”

        All of these issues can be addressed regardless of if someone donates via NI or AI. I’m not going to respond to your laundry list of questions because:

        1.) This isn’t about me.

        2.) You already know the answers to these problems if you spent any time in the community.

        By the way you keep track of who your adult children have sex with? Weird!

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      • Helen says:

        Mike your attitude is exactly why so many women join FSDW. Do you even know what youre saying? I am completely baffled by what you are saying about prostitution??

        You wrote “By suggesting that women should not have “free sex” you’re implying that all women should strive to be prostitutes! Sex in exchange for goods or services is the very definition of prostitution.’”

        Where did Emma say anything about suggesting women shouldnt have free sex? She said she doesnt promote ANY sex through FSDW. And why we joined. I got sick of being asked for NI when I wouldnt ever consider it. And no, I dont want to be in the room watching you (becasuse you think that is still AI so ok) and no I dont want to give you a ‘hand’. Heard it all, dont want it. Horrah for FSDW. If women do want that they can go to every other site. We’ve been on most, trust me we would never again.

        And as you said ‘sex in exchange for goods or services is the very definition of prostitution’. So stop giving sex in exchange for donation, a service to deliberately create a child. Why are YOU so desperately wanting to prostitute yourself? Thats why we used FSDW for both of our children, we dont WAnT to be involved in anything of that nature. We dont want to keep having to justify why we dont want sex. Why having sex with someone just to have a baby is abhorent to us? Men like you will keep attacking Emma and FSDW because of what she believes in. But we WANT what she believes in. And we think $20 a month for what she helps us do is worth not having to keep defending ourselves and being approached by men like you. Also because of the professional support we get. Its great knowing that the site moderator who we turn to actually works with kids and DC families.

        I do not understand what you mean by

        “I’m asking you. You said that NI donors are more statistically likely to have unprotected sex then the rest of the population. Show me these so called statistics you have or admit that you made them up.”

        An NI donor is by its very definition having unprotected sex with multiple partners> Or are youo saying that you offer NI but you find most women dont take you up on it and so you use AI? (wonder why that is) Of course NI donors are statistically more likely to have unprotected sex? They are ADVERTISING for it.

        I am going to post this on the FSDW facebook page and would strongly advise Emma to stop wasting her time trying to put forward what FSDW is about. Its clear what it offers and anyone who wants to join it can. Its also clear that there is a definite need for FSDW when reading comments like yours.

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        Loyal FSDW ex member with TWO beautiful children who were born through AI and have the same brilliant awesome biological father who they have known since they were born. He is an important part of our lives.

        ps “If you donate- can your children contact you, out of interest? What are your arrangements for what happens when the child is born? How many have you donate to- or plan to donate to? DO you keep track of where they are to check they dont meet later in life and inadvertantly have sex?”

        All of these issues can be addressed regardless of if someone donates via NI or AI. I’m not going to respond to your laundry list of questions because:

        1.) This isn’t about me.

        NO MIKE IT ISNT. Its about your kids. And you cant answer those questions because they dont factor into your thinking. And WE spent years in the ‘sperm donation community’ and can tell you from our perspctive that this is the only site that most effectively addresses them. It was what we wanted. And there are many other women out there looking for just the same. Dont ridicule what we want. When you ridicule FSDW who has changed our lives your ridicule us.

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      • Emma says:

        To Mike

        “Wow I don’t have the time or motivation to respond to all of that. Of course I don’t have a site that keeps the money rolling in do I Emma? So I’ll just hit the important points.”

        If thats your response when you have little time or motivation…wow yourself!

        You seem annoyed that I am charging for the service FSDW provides. That $20 or so per 30 days- more than I spend on coffee.
        Mike I would never offer it for free. I spend at least 6 – 8 hours per day on FSDW alone, as well as working on my career and raising my family. I do everything on the site myself to ensure that I dont lose the personal touch and so I can aswer every one of the 500 or so emails I get every day. I personally believe that offering it for free devalues it. Whereas with donating sperm- a new life- by charging money you devalue that life. Its my opinion regardless of what you think. And I dont have the money to spend 6 – 8 hours a day and run the site out of my own pocket. The money goes into campaign sites to raise awareness, workshops and more. For example I am working on short stories for DC families to help them with starting points for discussion. All of this- other than the members only area subscription are offered for free because I use the member subscriptions to cover it all. Its just how I like to do things. If money was my motivation Id be doing things are coparent-match etc?!!

        I do have a professional career that supports me, and also helps children and families. I work with families- and especially disengaged kids – and am also in the process of trying to raise reading levels in Australia. So Im a busy person- constantly trying to help children and families.

        But if you want to criticise me for asking $20 a month for what FSDW offers regardless of what that money then achieves then thats your choice. As it is peoples choice if they want to join us. Once they join I support then for life.

        I will not continue this discussion about ‘NI’ as it is one Ive had too many times.
        I will leave this ‘discussion’ by saying that I am a woman and know what I want. NOT to have unprotected sex or to have a stranger inside me in that personal way just because I want a child. I know there are many others that feel the same way. So I work hard to help them find men who will honour that. And who will honour the child.

        If your children (do you even know where they are?) know of you I would be very surprised.
        And when I say I dont care what happens outside of FSDW as long as it doesnt potentially adversely affect anyone I would argue that what you are doing- the whole process- does just that. Because in MY EXPERIENCE the men who predominantly offer NI (want any type of sexual involvement with the recipient) do not keep in touch with the family or child. Whether infact that is true or not I dont wish to take that risk through FSDW.

        Children First.

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      • Rob says:

        Mike

        “Any contract to absolve the biological father from parental responsibility isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. You’d know that if you did even 5 minutes of research. The best way to protect yourself is though anonymity.”

        As a lawyer I can tell you that it’s not a black and white situation as you would appear to believe.

        It depends on where you live; for example in Australia a donor (the biological father) has recently been taken off the birth certificate despite paying financially support for the child and having the child stay with him as a shared parenting type arrangement since birth. He now has no legal rights because the original contract was that he be a sperm donor and not a ‘father’.

        Laws are infact always evolving because parenting arrangements are evolving. However there have been so few cases regarding private donation arrangements that it is is likely to be a long process amending them as precedence plays such a factor.
        Incidentally, the handful of court cases also shows us that for the most part these arrangements are working outside of the system. So there seems little real concern for men wanting to donate outside of sperm banks. One would pressume that the issue of men gaining legal custody or contact outweighs any desire for a woman or couple to seek financial support for the child.

        As has been suggested I would definitely advise any client to complete a known donor agreement prior to conception and to engage in practices that demonstrate clear intent. With respect Mike, thats means a man donating through AI and not NI.

        Robert

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      • Mike Hunter says:

        Helen:

        “I am completely baffled by what you are saying about prostitution??”

        Apparently it doesn’t take much.

        “Where did Emma say anything about suggesting women shouldnt have free sex?”

        Read her post again.

        “So stop giving sex in exchange for donation, a service to deliberately create a child. Why are YOU so desperately wanting to prostitute yourself?”

        You may want to pick up a dictionary. Prostitution is having sex in exchange for RECEIVING a good or service. Not providing one.

        “Or are youo saying that you offer NI but you find most women dont take you up on it and so you use AI?”

        Another reading comprehension fail! Also I don’t bother anyone for sex. My profile says what I’m all about up front. I only message people who put in their profile that they are interested in NI. Potential recipients can make up their own minds whether they want to proceed or not.

        “…you cant answer those questions because they dont factor into your thinking.”

        No I didn’t answer those questions because they’re none of your business.

        If you’re so mentally weak that you need to pay $20 a month so icky men don’t approach you with the idea of impregnating you naturally [oh the horror!] then that’s your business. I don’t go out of my way to call out people who choose to go the AI route. I don’t see why you feel so compelled to attack NI donors. Consenting adults have the right to make their own decisions about reproduction. Some of them may make different choices then you. What’s so horrible about that?

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      • Amanda says:

        Ive just seen this on the FSDW facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/DIYBaby) so you can assume im an FSDW supporter. Big time. Mike you need shaking. You said ‘Your sexism is showing. Men and women both agree that sex isn’t a negative factor when choosing NI. The last time I checked two men can’t make a baby alone.’
        You think you can speak for all men and women and know what they are agree on?
        Well here is one woman telling you that sex is definitely a negative factor when choosing a donor and the method or when choosing anything to do with having a child with someone who isnt going to raising the kid as the Dad.
        Last time I checked single women, lesbian couples, gay couples, infertile couples cant make a baby without the help of a sperm donor, not just men with men. And thats what they want. A sperm donor. They are going to be the parents.

        When looking for a sperm donor this woman is telling you that sex is a highly negative factor in choosing a method of sperm donation. The invasion of your body by a stranger. The potential for a chemical reaction that could make things tricky for either party (a chemical reaction we know happens with sex) the increased risks of STDs as well as the legal issues trying to explain that this was for a donation and different to a one night stand.
        I also saw some comment you put apparently dismissing the concerns and saying people just need to take STD tests? Why not just have AI and not have to test for the STDs spread through skin to skin contact? And as far as I know the test for some are separate to the ones you can buy. The comment about a lot of the population having them without knowing is spot on. Why would women want to take this risk. the women I know who have agreed to Ni did this as they thought it was more effective. which it isnt.
        I cant see your logic, only that you want free sex. You havent said anything about why you do it other than for that. You dont even want the child to know who you are?And dont think you should be speaking out for men and women. Certainly not on this.
        NI for the purposes of creating a child with someone who does not intend to be known as the father and be a father would be something Id never choose, and this is a common theme among FSDW members. And you have shown that you choose to be anonymous. Again something we choose FSDW to avoid. You do not intend to be known as the biological father or to be one to the child is any sense of the word at all. So if you intend to be a sperm donor as with a sperm bank then keep sex out of it. Get your free sex with someone who is not then going to bring a child into the world. Did you see the campaign about kids knowing their origins and why? before you next put your penis into someone to deliberately create a child think about that child for just a minute and not your own sexual gratification.
        Just my opinion. but your comment about what men and womean agree on pissed me off.

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  3. Joe says:

    It’s virility, ego, id all of those great and horrible things wraped into one. The Kahns and Kings of history didn’t really have anything to do with their power. So why not, chase woman and show your capabilities. It’s a man thing.

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    • Emma says:

      Its not the kind of thing men in my life do:-) Most of the men I know have evolved considerably .. thank goodness.

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  4. SAO says:

    Evolution teaches that our purpose is to reproduce as many of our genes as possible. Parenting takes a lot of resources, but sperm donation takes next to none. In general, infertile couples who seek donated sperm are highly motivated to lavish care on the resulting children.

    It’s a way to seek immortality though offspring with no investment. What surprises me is that more men don’t do it.

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  5. Norb says:

    AI Sperm donor- Southwestern Ontario region.
    6’1 “, 28 yr old white, drug and disease free.
    kowalabear44@hotmail.com

    I would like to donate artificially to help women who are either in a lesbian relationship or do not want a man in their lives. I have successfully donated before to lesbian couples and a fertility clinic. I see no harm in bringing life into this world in places where it will be nurtured and cherished. :)

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