jedwards

Is it just me or is the sound effect at the beginning of the video about 100 times louder than the audio for the rest of the video? It's really obnoxious. Lower the volume or lose the sound effect.

Rita: Lovely Meter Maid

Why are doctors so dumb about this? Why should we have to get sick from their arrogance and stupidity about something so basic that even a toddler knows it's important to do?

zadig

I have never had a doctor come in to examine me without first washing his/her hands, and then washing after the examination was completed. Where the heck was this study done, anyway?

mp

I'm pretty sick of the NYT constantly slandering physicians. I'm a physician and all physicians I work with wash their hands before and after seeing a patient. It is not only doctors that enter a patient's room. There are a lot of people in the hospital that interact with patients, including nurses, Physical therapists,dietary, and even transporters. Everyone is responsible, and it seems that only physicians are the only ones ever singled out. I respected the freakonomics blog before it became a part of the NYTs and foolishly thought it would remain independent after the buyout.

Andrew Mitchell MD

We should all follow George Bush's example of using gel after shaking anyone's hand or Donald Trump's of refusing to run to avoid shaking any hand. Everything we touch, including money, door knobs, fruit, books,and our own bodies, have germs. The is evidence some exposure to germs prevents immune disease. A recent study in Canada showed there were less wound infections when using non sterile gloves for sewing cuts. Why is conjunctivitis quarentined but colds, which are more serious, are not. Most diseases are spread by noses and hands and few by eating or from animals. I feel unclean if I do not wash my hands after touching any patient with an infectious disease, even a cold.

Robert Savin, MD

The video is false. No surgeon washes his hands AFTER downing an operating gown. One washes one's hands in a short sleeved scub suit and then enters the operating room to er gowned with a sterile garment.

Johan

So that's 73 and 9 percent of what? All times when they were supposed to wash their hands? One sounds high and the other sounds low, but unless we know what this mysterious "handwashing rate" is and how the percentages are derived, it means very little.

dickgrogan

jedwards, I'm completely with you. Whoever is doing the sound editing needs to pay more attention. It's pretty usually bad, but this time it was horrible.

On another note, I was hoping she had another accent for us. Are Russian and valley girl the only two that she can do?

Rtambyra

I agree with mp. The NYT seems to have some sort of vendetta out against doctors. I'm also a physician, and the hand-washing has gotten so ingrained it's hard to be at parties and NOT be able to wash between shaking hands. I agree that dozens of people enter a hospital room, and that article should be about ALL hospital staff, not just the MDs.

Princess Leia

We're using lots of Purell at school these days, too. Students share computer keyboards and other things--it's a big germ-fest unless hand-washing is part of the routine.

No quantative data, just practical experience... cleanly habits keep everyone healthier.

Wayne Lanier, PhD

Thank you for providing the English text by Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis. I am a microbiologist. Every field has its heros; Semmelweis is one of the heros of microbiology, yet I had not read his paper on Childbed fever. In his time the microbial cause of childbed fever was unknown. Only through such history can today's generation grasp how very difficult original discovery was, and still is. To appreciate this, realize that Semmelweis was not congratulated for his observations; his conclusions were not accepted; women continued to die of childbed fever in Austrian hospitals. The medical community of Vienna still disdained preOP hand washing years later, when Semmelweis himself became infected through a cut on his hand and died - of childbed fever...!

susan

Thank you for the appropriate reference to Semmelweis rather than usual credit to Lister. What is often forgotten (or failed to be mentioned) is that Semmelweis was driven mad by the disregard (and repudiation) of his observations.

Normally I, too, would deny that physicians are as bad as NYT and others popularize. In truth, it depends upon situation. Most hospitals are not designed to encourage hand washing on entry or exit. (So instead, hospitals have tried to position dispensers of the waterless sanitation gels. It's much less expensive than trying to bring in water and sewerage for sinks at every doorway.) Individual offices vary in proximity of sink versus sanitation gels.

On the other hand, for those who lament that "even toddlers know it's important to do", observational studies demonstrate that toddlers and adults fail to wash their hands after use of the commode - with men worse than women.

Universal precautions with increased use of gloves (often latex) has actually made hand washing almost worse. People (often various types of workers, esp. delivery of meals, etc.,) tend to wear the same pair throughout the day and spread bacteria, fungi, etc, through the day. They tend to think that they are protected (by virtue of wearing the gloves) but fail to see the potential risk to those they visit/serve.

Read more...

discordian

Total BS.
nothing else to say, really.

Matt

There's a reason men don't wash their hands as often as women do Susan. Men can actually urinate without touching anything unlike you women who have to use half the roll of toilet paper to keep from dripping the rest of the day.

jedwards

Is it just me or is the sound effect at the beginning of the video about 100 times louder than the audio for the rest of the video? It's really obnoxious. Lower the volume or lose the sound effect.

Rita: Lovely Meter Maid

Why are doctors so dumb about this? Why should we have to get sick from their arrogance and stupidity about something so basic that even a toddler knows it's important to do?

zadig

I have never had a doctor come in to examine me without first washing his/her hands, and then washing after the examination was completed. Where the heck was this study done, anyway?

mp

I'm pretty sick of the NYT constantly slandering physicians. I'm a physician and all physicians I work with wash their hands before and after seeing a patient. It is not only doctors that enter a patient's room. There are a lot of people in the hospital that interact with patients, including nurses, Physical therapists,dietary, and even transporters. Everyone is responsible, and it seems that only physicians are the only ones ever singled out. I respected the freakonomics blog before it became a part of the NYTs and foolishly thought it would remain independent after the buyout.

Andrew Mitchell MD

We should all follow George Bush's example of using gel after shaking anyone's hand or Donald Trump's of refusing to run to avoid shaking any hand. Everything we touch, including money, door knobs, fruit, books,and our own bodies, have germs. The is evidence some exposure to germs prevents immune disease. A recent study in Canada showed there were less wound infections when using non sterile gloves for sewing cuts. Why is conjunctivitis quarentined but colds, which are more serious, are not. Most diseases are spread by noses and hands and few by eating or from animals. I feel unclean if I do not wash my hands after touching any patient with an infectious disease, even a cold.

Robert Savin, MD

The video is false. No surgeon washes his hands AFTER downing an operating gown. One washes one's hands in a short sleeved scub suit and then enters the operating room to er gowned with a sterile garment.