A Reader Debate: Economists-Turned Parents Vs. Parents-Turned Economists

Justin Wolfers and his daughter Matilda after a White House Easter egg roll.

On Friday I speculated that perhaps becoming a parent changed how I approach economics. To broaden the discussion, I posed the following thought experiment: what kind of economists would we be if we learned our economics only after we were parents?

The always-interesting Robin Hanson responded:

I don’t need to speculate – I am exactly that kind of economist. I started econ grad school with two kids, ages 0 and 2, and had no undergrad econ… But none of that makes me doubt the value of neoclassical econ. How could it? First, econ makes sense of a complex social world by leaving important things out, on purpose – that is the point of models, to be simple enough to understand… Having an emotional parenting experience is as irrelevant to the value of neoclassical econ as having a mystical drug experience is to the validity of basic physics.

Robin is right to say that my becoming a parent changes neither the physical nor economic laws of the universe. But my point wasn’t how fatherhood changed the economy, but rather how I approach my work as an economist. An interesting email exchange followed in which we both expanded on our views. I argued:

You say that in our models we leave things out on purpose, so as to be simple enough to understand. We also try to leave in the things that are important. And I think that the things I would happily have left out while in my twenties are different from the things I would leave out today. Now that may just mean that today I’m more of a Beckerian or perhaps Akerlovian economist while my younger self was more Samuelsonian. So the relevant thought experiment for you is whether you would have been more of a Samuelsonian economist if you had gone to econ grad school before having kids.

And it turns out that we are a lot closer to agreeing after all. Here’s Robin’s response:

I fully agree that as we live longer and experience more things that are important to us, we change our ideas of what is important in life, and important to model as academics. My starting later in life probably influenced what I considered to be important topics. I’m not sure how to translate that into the categories of “Samuelsonian” “Beckerian” or “Akerlovian”, but being older I expect I put more weight on the importance of status, loyalty, identity, attachment, and signaling all such things. Those tend to be things that young folks don’t notice as much yet in their lives.

Indeed, I take Robin as Exhibit A for my hypothesis that parents-who-become-economists view the world differently than economists-who-become-parents. And the proof? Well subsequent to our conversation, Robin posted a simple theory to explain my navel-gazing:

Wolfers is usually an excellent economist, and here he seems to realize he is acting a bit loopy. This suggests a “religious” scenario, where someone tries to show devotion via a willingness to believe extreme things. Wolfers feels a new strong attachment to his family, and shows it by a willingness to change related beliefs in an extreme way. Being an economist, one of the biggest beliefs he can sacrifice on this altar is his belief in the standard economic framework. So Wolfers says that his new family attachment has made him question this framework.

I’m not going to debate whether Robin is right or wrong. Instead, I’ll simply observe that this is an essentially Akerlovian perspective on parenting as identity. Moreover, this is precisely the sort of insight that is likely to occur to parents-who-become-economists, like Robin.

Now my argument isn’t rock solid. Just as I don’t get to observe the counter-factual of what sort of economist I would have been if I had been a parent-who-became-an-economist, we don’t get to observe the counter-factual of Robin as economist-who-became-a-parent. But it does seem like an interesting thought experiment.


I became a parent ten years after finishing my doctorate and about18 years into my career as a land economist (think economics in three dimensions). I suspect much of the difference between Hanson and Wolfers has to do with their age and life position at the time of becoming parents and their economic views reflect the same. The pertinent question is to ask how your world view and behaviors have changed on all fronts, not just professionally. Parenthood changes us in so many ways and continues to do so as our children grow and mature. Changing your mind about a theoretical framework is probably due to the same drivers that make you think less about car racing and more about life insurance.

Debashish Ghosh

To whatever extent your speculation is actually true in practice, should this not undermine one's confidence level in economic models? It suggests that there may be a lot of randomness to the economic models that are developed. I would always be wondering how much confidence to put into any model if the list of important things included or left out was partly determined by seemingly unrelated factors such as whether or not the economist(s) coming up the model are parents or not.


I don't see how "feeling" the intimate biology of parenthood is anything but a shift in preferences. Provided that you continue to be utility maximizing (as you undoubtedly still are), the models will simply reflect your new desires. Nothing systemic has changed.

Maya Avina

Re: your closing comments about why these economists have children even though it supposedly makes people less happy.
It is the way we ensure we are part of a pack. Childrearing is a small portion of our adult lives, but then we have family for a lifetime.