How Can You Escape a Drama Triangle? (NSQ Ep. 62)

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Relevant Research & References

Here’s where you can learn more about the people and ideas in this episode:


  • Stephen Karpman, psychiatrist and creator of the drama triangle.
  • Dustin Peterson, leadership coach.
  • Sharie Stines, psychologist and recovery coach.
  • Daniel Kahneman, professor of psychology and public affairs at Princeton University.
  • James Harrison, former American football linebacker.
  • Tom Gilovich, professor of psychology at Cornell University.
  • Katy Milkman, professor of behavioral science at the University of Pennsylvania.
  • Jana Gallus, professor of strategy and behavioral decision making at the University of California, Los Angeles.
  • Bruno Frey, professor of economics at the University of Basel.