Former Secretary of State Antony Blinken isn’t a flamethrower, but he certainly has strong opinions. In this wide-ranging conversation with Stephen Dubner, he gives them all: on Israel, Gaza, China, Iran, Russia, Biden, Trump — and the rest of the world.
To find out more, check out the podcast from which this hour was drawn: “How to Wage Peace, According to Tony Blinken”
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